1 00:00:16,429 --> 00:00:23,820 well good afternoon ladies and gentlemen 2 00:00:19,589 --> 00:00:26,490 my name is Patrick McDonough and I'm 3 00:00:23,820 --> 00:00:30,929 here today to relate an experience that 4 00:00:26,489 --> 00:00:33,659 happened to me in September of 1966 44 5 00:00:30,928 --> 00:00:36,629 years ago but that experience was so 6 00:00:33,659 --> 00:00:38,459 significant it was basically burned in 7 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:41,309 my memory I haven't forgotten about it 8 00:00:38,460 --> 00:00:43,679 at all but I am getting older and I did 9 00:00:41,308 --> 00:00:47,159 want to put this experience and relate 10 00:00:43,679 --> 00:00:51,329 it on the record a little background on 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:56,009 me I had enlisted in the Air Force in 12 00:00:51,329 --> 00:01:00,808 Berkeley California in the first week of 13 00:00:56,009 --> 00:01:02,849 November 1962 at the onset of the Cuban 14 00:01:00,808 --> 00:01:06,478 Missile Crisis it was going I felt 15 00:01:02,850 --> 00:01:08,280 patriotic and up to that time I had been 16 00:01:06,478 --> 00:01:10,560 studying engineering in college I had 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:14,010 three years of engineering and the Air 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:18,000 Force considering my background trained 19 00:01:14,010 --> 00:01:20,368 me to be a geodetic survey er and I was 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,090 assigned to 1380 first geodetic survey 21 00:01:20,368 --> 00:01:31,049 squadron in Orlando Florida 22 00:01:23,090 --> 00:01:35,640 we basically in 1965 we moved to Warren 23 00:01:31,049 --> 00:01:40,049 Air Force Base in Wyoming on average I 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:44,549 would spend nine ten months a year on 25 00:01:40,049 --> 00:01:46,799 temporary duty surveying for latitude 26 00:01:44,549 --> 00:01:51,570 and longitude at our missile sites and 27 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:54,750 aircraft bases for positioning missile 28 00:01:51,569 --> 00:01:57,089 and aircraft guidance systems basically 29 00:01:54,750 --> 00:02:01,500 the squadrons mission was to provide 30 00:01:57,090 --> 00:02:05,280 precise geographical coordinates for a 31 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:07,709 missile or an aircraft inertial guidance 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,390 system so that it would the missile or 33 00:02:07,709 --> 00:02:12,750 aircraft would know exactly precisely 34 00:02:09,389 --> 00:02:15,179 where it was at when it takes off 35 00:02:12,750 --> 00:02:19,169 while the intelligence agencies would 36 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:24,300 provide the targeting and information in 37 00:02:19,169 --> 00:02:27,599 early of September of 1966 myself and 38 00:02:24,300 --> 00:02:30,330 two other Airmen a airman first class al 39 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:33,239 Cramer and a airman third class Charlie 40 00:02:30,330 --> 00:02:39,630 Coates we were temporarily assigned to 41 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:42,990 Malstrom Air Force Base and were ordered 42 00:02:39,629 --> 00:02:46,680 to provide or perform the initial 43 00:02:42,990 --> 00:02:48,860 geodetic surveys for the last 50 missile 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:52,890 sites there there already was 150 45 00:02:48,860 --> 00:02:58,290 Minuteman 1 sites and we were putting in 46 00:02:52,889 --> 00:03:00,929 the last 50 for the wing and basically 47 00:02:58,289 --> 00:03:04,609 we were assigned to the site activation 48 00:03:00,930 --> 00:03:09,450 task force they call sate half it was a 49 00:03:04,610 --> 00:03:12,590 bong really the prime contractor we were 50 00:03:09,449 --> 00:03:16,259 given a government truck no radio 51 00:03:12,590 --> 00:03:19,620 anything in it that I was the chief of 52 00:03:16,259 --> 00:03:22,409 party I was the observer on our small 53 00:03:19,620 --> 00:03:24,420 three-man team al was the recorder 54 00:03:22,409 --> 00:03:28,049 Charlie was we were trying to train him 55 00:03:24,419 --> 00:03:29,849 both in observing and recording we 56 00:03:28,050 --> 00:03:33,750 arrived who normally would arrive at a 57 00:03:29,849 --> 00:03:37,879 missile site at about in early evening 58 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:40,169 we'd set up our instruments and 59 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:44,519 basically what I was doing was the start 60 00:03:40,169 --> 00:03:46,319 observation to provide precise latitude 61 00:03:44,519 --> 00:03:48,629 and longitude on the night of this 62 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:50,459 incident that happened we were 63 00:03:48,629 --> 00:03:52,560 completing a series of what we call 64 00:03:50,459 --> 00:03:56,189 celestial Astro 65 00:03:52,560 --> 00:04:00,120 asmath observations southeast of Conrad 66 00:03:56,189 --> 00:04:02,909 and I was doing the observing L was 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,580 recording and Charlie was assisting now 68 00:04:02,909 --> 00:04:10,379 with the chronometer on the time hax as 69 00:04:05,580 --> 00:04:13,469 I tipped on Polaris the unusual thing 70 00:04:10,379 --> 00:04:20,100 about this missile site I was at was 71 00:04:13,469 --> 00:04:23,209 that the blast hatch of the silo was 72 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:25,410 open and that was very unusual 73 00:04:23,209 --> 00:04:26,579 normally when I'd go to these missile 74 00:04:25,410 --> 00:04:29,099 sites even though they were 75 00:04:26,579 --> 00:04:31,709 not activated yet with a missile they 76 00:04:29,098 --> 00:04:35,189 were always closed the mana lifts were 77 00:04:31,709 --> 00:04:40,408 there we do for mana lifts and do a 78 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:44,038 precise quadrangle and the work we did 79 00:04:40,408 --> 00:04:48,740 was very precise it involved a lot of 80 00:04:44,038 --> 00:04:52,529 was basically all using star shots and 81 00:04:48,740 --> 00:04:56,759 so here's a site that we arrived at and 82 00:04:52,529 --> 00:04:58,318 the blast hatch is open and we're 83 00:04:56,759 --> 00:05:00,080 nearing completion of the star 84 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:02,430 observations we had been to the other 85 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:07,128 three mana lifts and I was at the 86 00:05:02,430 --> 00:05:12,709 monolith thought the next to the hatch 87 00:05:07,129 --> 00:05:16,229 and it was probably about one 1:30 any 88 00:05:12,709 --> 00:05:21,359 unidentified flying object came from the 89 00:05:16,228 --> 00:05:26,339 north and stopped right over us it I 90 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:28,979 would say it was probably about altitude 91 00:05:26,339 --> 00:05:31,339 of 300 feet or so maybe a little higher 92 00:05:28,978 --> 00:05:36,269 it's a little hard to tell them the dark 93 00:05:31,339 --> 00:05:38,369 yeah it was round it had I would 94 00:05:36,269 --> 00:05:41,370 estimate its diameter at about 50 feet 95 00:05:38,370 --> 00:05:44,908 mmm and it's like a pretty large you 96 00:05:41,370 --> 00:05:47,908 know like a wingspan of a b-52 something 97 00:05:44,908 --> 00:05:50,310 in that range it's pretty large it 98 00:05:47,908 --> 00:05:54,778 seemed to have pulsating lights going 99 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:58,699 around it and it had a white light from 100 00:05:54,778 --> 00:06:01,610 the center looking down into the silo 101 00:05:58,699 --> 00:06:04,740 there was no wind there was no noise 102 00:06:01,610 --> 00:06:09,509 still only stayed there maybe 20 30 103 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:12,718 seconds at most and then I just remember 104 00:06:09,509 --> 00:06:16,740 I I'm staring up at their stars right 105 00:06:12,718 --> 00:06:20,250 I'm pretty keen observer of of what's 106 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:24,120 above me here in the celestial spear up 107 00:06:20,250 --> 00:06:27,478 there and I just said to myself what if 108 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:31,110 this thing beams beams us up and takes 109 00:06:27,478 --> 00:06:32,550 us off to some distant place and never 110 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:34,020 returned earth again I mean this is 111 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:36,028 going through my head here well this 112 00:06:34,019 --> 00:06:39,299 thing's above me and and then from this 113 00:06:36,028 --> 00:06:41,459 dead stop it shoots off to the east 114 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:45,360 just like now you see it now you're 115 00:06:41,459 --> 00:06:48,918 doing it just to so after this UFO 116 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:51,169 departs I grab my instrument me and 117 00:06:48,918 --> 00:06:54,060 jumped in the truck behind the steering 118 00:06:51,168 --> 00:06:56,908 wheel and off we went and we weren't 119 00:06:54,060 --> 00:06:58,680 about to be there if it came back we we 120 00:06:56,908 --> 00:07:00,000 didn't have guards with us because there 121 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,720 was no missile we didn't have a radio 122 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,129 because we're not really in contact with 123 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,050 the air force base I don't know any of 124 00:07:05,129 --> 00:07:08,908 this other stuff is even going on to be 125 00:07:07,050 --> 00:07:10,348 honest with you I mean this is we're 126 00:07:08,908 --> 00:07:13,158 just kind of out there on our own doing 127 00:07:10,348 --> 00:07:14,699 these doing these sites and mailing our 128 00:07:13,158 --> 00:07:18,269 material back 129 00:07:14,699 --> 00:07:21,210 it was I wasn't even aware there was a 130 00:07:18,269 --> 00:07:25,378 UFO problem per se but as it turned out 131 00:07:21,209 --> 00:07:27,329 the night's events weren't totally over 132 00:07:25,379 --> 00:07:33,810 with us at that point as we sped away in 133 00:07:27,329 --> 00:07:35,639 on our way back to Conrad and the Army 134 00:07:33,810 --> 00:07:37,288 Corps of Engineers had base rocked all 135 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:39,300 the roads to take the weight of these 136 00:07:37,288 --> 00:07:41,310 missiles they were bringing in and of 137 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:43,770 course these are new sights and they 138 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:47,278 took down all the signs to make the 139 00:07:43,769 --> 00:07:49,258 roads wider and I go over the hill and 140 00:07:47,278 --> 00:07:51,060 come down the headlights come down 141 00:07:49,259 --> 00:07:54,718 there's no road there at Eid you know 142 00:07:51,060 --> 00:07:56,550 and so I tried to make a you either went 143 00:07:54,718 --> 00:08:02,278 to the right or left I tried to go to 144 00:07:56,550 --> 00:08:06,439 the left to towards Conrad and the truck 145 00:08:02,278 --> 00:08:09,120 flipped over and we ended up upside down 146 00:08:06,439 --> 00:08:12,269 fortunately none of us were hurt 147 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,668 we walked probably about two hours to 148 00:08:12,269 --> 00:08:17,778 the nearer nearby farmhouse if we call 149 00:08:14,668 --> 00:08:21,839 that nearby and I called that Montana 150 00:08:17,778 --> 00:08:24,750 Highway Patrol they the farmer drove us 151 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:26,788 back to the accident site in was 152 00:08:24,750 --> 00:08:29,908 interesting when the highway patrolman 153 00:08:26,788 --> 00:08:31,860 arrived as we told him you know how did 154 00:08:29,908 --> 00:08:34,799 this occur he was asking us and told him 155 00:08:31,860 --> 00:08:38,399 that his dispatch had told him there had 156 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:42,809 been over 20 reports to the to his 157 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:45,408 office that night in reporting a UFO in 158 00:08:42,809 --> 00:08:45,408 the area 159 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:51,800 I wrote incident incident reports to the 160 00:08:48,769 --> 00:09:00,350 sate half Boeing Montana 161 00:08:51,799 --> 00:09:02,269 this state regarding the accident but 162 00:09:00,350 --> 00:09:04,750 you know what was interesting was I 163 00:09:02,269 --> 00:09:08,750 never heard anything from the Air Force 164 00:09:04,750 --> 00:09:12,470 regarding the incident and I never had 165 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:14,179 to there was no retribution or 166 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:15,829 reimbursement required for me for 167 00:09:14,179 --> 00:09:17,689 rolling this truck and this truck at 18 168 00:09:15,828 --> 00:09:20,629 miles on it that afternoon I was a new 169 00:09:17,690 --> 00:09:23,000 truck okay so they nothing they heard 170 00:09:20,629 --> 00:09:24,350 nothing so this is this part was good 171 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:29,649 because I didn't really want to buy the 172 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:35,959 truck I I went back to my headquarters 173 00:09:29,649 --> 00:09:38,000 at Warren Air Force Base and about a 174 00:09:35,958 --> 00:09:40,939 month and a half later I was discharged 175 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,159 I did not mention wrecking this truck up 176 00:09:40,940 --> 00:09:45,980 in Montana on one of my TD why's he 177 00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:49,490 didn't ask me and I I didn't mention it 178 00:09:45,980 --> 00:09:51,680 I didn't want to buy it and but I must 179 00:09:49,490 --> 00:09:55,250 say now my four years that I had with 180 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,778 this geodetic survey squadron I had 181 00:09:55,250 --> 00:09:58,730 worked on the latest missiles and 182 00:09:56,778 --> 00:10:04,730 aircraft and in the US Air Force 183 00:09:58,730 --> 00:10:09,259 inventory and I worked everywhere on 184 00:10:04,730 --> 00:10:11,360 these guidance systems and we or I never 185 00:10:09,259 --> 00:10:13,669 saw anything in the Air Force inventory 186 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:18,500 that could perform like this UFO did 187 00:10:13,669 --> 00:10:20,179 it's I don't know what it was but we 188 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:23,509 sure didn't have any I never saw 189 00:10:20,179 --> 00:10:25,909 anything like it and I'd like to thank 190 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:28,759 all of you for being here today and I 191 00:10:25,909 --> 00:10:33,049 thank the National Press Club hopefully 192 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:34,610 someday the we'll know in the near 193 00:10:33,049 --> 00:10:37,429 future that the government rule 194 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:42,669 perhaps release any information they 195 00:10:37,429 --> 00:10:42,669 have on UFOs thank you very much 196 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,500 you